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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://chrislott.org/story/web-20-tools-for-education/comment-page-1/#comment-117301</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 01:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As in many of the points, I have only my experience to back this up anecdotally. I figure it this way: students have been occupying their minds with other things since long before there were any digital tools to do so. If by having a backchannel that is ostensibly oriented towards the class I am able to capture even a sliver of that attention that would otherwise drift away, then it&#039;s a plus. And in my experience it is almost inevitable that people who tend to chat a lot are people who are more silent when I&#039;ve had them in other classes or when the chat is not available. I can quantitatively state that the great majority of the chatting in the backchannel is somewhat related to class... I suspect that is not the case with general IM. I also suspect that this ability to talk to one another reinforces a kind of class community and I have seen that community at work.

My real point is that it goes against everything I have experienced-- and the experience of others I have talked to about it-- to believe that trying to block wireless and close laptop lids and artificially constrain attention has any real positive benefit. It&#039;s a fallacy that if my eyes are not on my computer screen then I must be paying attention to the instructor... if anything, the minute someone issues that edict I tune even *further* out-- but I&#039;m contrary that way :)

Of course, there are various situations where it makes sense to limit other activities... I am thinking here in the general case of &quot;lecture&quot; and other instructional class time that isn&#039;t devoted to actual group activity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As in many of the points, I have only my experience to back this up anecdotally. I figure it this way: students have been occupying their minds with other things since long before there were any digital tools to do so. If by having a backchannel that is ostensibly oriented towards the class I am able to capture even a sliver of that attention that would otherwise drift away, then it&#8217;s a plus. And in my experience it is almost inevitable that people who tend to chat a lot are people who are more silent when I&#8217;ve had them in other classes or when the chat is not available. I can quantitatively state that the great majority of the chatting in the backchannel is somewhat related to class&#8230; I suspect that is not the case with general IM. I also suspect that this ability to talk to one another reinforces a kind of class community and I have seen that community at work.</p>
<p>My real point is that it goes against everything I have experienced&#8211; and the experience of others I have talked to about it&#8211; to believe that trying to block wireless and close laptop lids and artificially constrain attention has any real positive benefit. It&#8217;s a fallacy that if my eyes are not on my computer screen then I must be paying attention to the instructor&#8230; if anything, the minute someone issues that edict I tune even *further* out&#8211; but I&#8217;m contrary that way <img src='http://chrislott.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Of course, there are various situations where it makes sense to limit other activities&#8230; I am thinking here in the general case of &#8220;lecture&#8221; and other instructional class time that isn&#8217;t devoted to actual group activity.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared Stein</title>
		<link>http://chrislott.org/story/web-20-tools-for-education/comment-page-1/#comment-117172</link>
		<dc:creator>Jared Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>9 is absolute.

6 is discomfiting to me without something empirical to Back It Up. (&quot;Synchronous chat and backchannel activities can, as counterintuitive as it seems, lead to higher comprehension and enhanced participation.&quot;) Gimme gimme research results. Haven&#039;t seen anything on this topic, but I bet you could do it, Mr. Lott.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>9 is absolute.</p>
<p>6 is discomfiting to me without something empirical to Back It Up. (&#8220;Synchronous chat and backchannel activities can, as counterintuitive as it seems, lead to higher comprehension and enhanced participation.&#8221;) Gimme gimme research results. Haven&#8217;t seen anything on this topic, but I bet you could do it, Mr. Lott.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea Sandvig</title>
		<link>http://chrislott.org/story/web-20-tools-for-education/comment-page-1/#comment-115902</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrea Sandvig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you know of any free blog program that lets you preview your blog privately for an indefinate amount of time before posting it live on the web?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you know of any free blog program that lets you preview your blog privately for an indefinate amount of time before posting it live on the web?</p>
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		<title>By: elearnspace</title>
		<link>http://chrislott.org/story/web-20-tools-for-education/comment-page-1/#comment-115185</link>
		<dc:creator>elearnspace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Alaska...&lt;/strong&gt;

I arrived in Alaska late yesterday for a week-long stint as a visiting scholar at University of Alaska Fairbanks. I delivered a few presentations today: Connectivism 101: For the Curious and Organizational Impact of Networked Learning. But the most val...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Alaska&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I arrived in Alaska late yesterday for a week-long stint as a visiting scholar at University of Alaska Fairbanks. I delivered a few presentations today: Connectivism 101: For the Curious and Organizational Impact of Networked Learning. But the most val&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://chrislott.org/story/web-20-tools-for-education/comment-page-1/#comment-114552</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sessions were a mixed bag, though I think I got a bit luckier than Scott! Still, the hallway conversations, dinner and coffee meetings were great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sessions were a mixed bag, though I think I got a bit luckier than Scott! Still, the hallway conversations, dinner and coffee meetings were great.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://chrislott.org/story/web-20-tools-for-education/comment-page-1/#comment-114549</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug-- #4 could be better phrased. I mean &#039;passive&#039; in a less negative sense than it comes across. The main point is that without activity by the participant, the network remains passive and the positive effects minimal or non-existent. 

However, I do think that a fair amount of resistance and unwillingness to engage in social acts of learning-- at least at the University level and in my experience-- does come from that kind of environment posing a hard, new challenge. I know it is challenging for *me*...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug&#8211; #4 could be better phrased. I mean &#8216;passive&#8217; in a less negative sense than it comes across. The main point is that without activity by the participant, the network remains passive and the positive effects minimal or non-existent. </p>
<p>However, I do think that a fair amount of resistance and unwillingness to engage in social acts of learning&#8211; at least at the University level and in my experience&#8211; does come from that kind of environment posing a hard, new challenge. I know it is challenging for *me*&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: www.educationadvice4u.info &#187; Web 2.0 Tools for Education</title>
		<link>http://chrislott.org/story/web-20-tools-for-education/comment-page-1/#comment-114124</link>
		<dc:creator>www.educationadvice4u.info &#187; Web 2.0 Tools for Education</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 02:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] chris added an interesting post on Web 2.0 Tools for Education.Here&#8217;s a small excerpt:My first activity at WCET was putting on a pre-conference session on Web 2.0 tools and technologies with Ritchie Boyd, Darren Crone and Jenny Jopling. As usual I had far more material gathered together than I could share, &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] chris added an interesting post on Web 2.0 Tools for Education.Here&#8217;s a small excerpt:My first activity at WCET was putting on a pre-conference session on Web 2.0 tools and technologies with Ritchie Boyd, Darren Crone and Jenny Jopling. As usual I had far more material gathered together than I could share, &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://chrislott.org/story/web-20-tools-for-education/comment-page-1/#comment-114011</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Session looks fantastic. Wish I could have been there. (Though your Twits and Scott&#039;s Twits make me feel... maybe less so.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Session looks fantastic. Wish I could have been there. (Though your Twits and Scott&#8217;s Twits make me feel&#8230; maybe less so.)</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Noon</title>
		<link>http://chrislott.org/story/web-20-tools-for-education/comment-page-1/#comment-113999</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Noon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 15:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My recent experience helping teachers see the value in the social web suggests that your point #4 is a very large stumbling block. I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s &quot;passivity&quot; or something else, though. It&#039;s true that students in school (especially the successful ones) are trained to be compliant. But I&#039;m not convinced that passivity, or being unused to challenge, is the problem. There is a broad spectrum of values and personality types among any group of people. People sort themselves accordingly. 

I emphatically agree with the final point in your list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My recent experience helping teachers see the value in the social web suggests that your point #4 is a very large stumbling block. I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s &#8220;passivity&#8221; or something else, though. It&#8217;s true that students in school (especially the successful ones) are trained to be compliant. But I&#8217;m not convinced that passivity, or being unused to challenge, is the problem. There is a broad spectrum of values and personality types among any group of people. People sort themselves accordingly. </p>
<p>I emphatically agree with the final point in your list.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruminate- Web 2.0 Tools for Education</title>
		<link>http://chrislott.org/story/web-20-tools-for-education/comment-page-1/#comment-113972</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruminate- Web 2.0 Tools for Education</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] strong and put a bit more directly than you usually see but I really couldn&#8217;t agree more. Ruminate » Blog Archive » Web 2.0 Tools for Education If only one point sticks, I hope it was/is the last [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] strong and put a bit more directly than you usually see but I really couldn&#8217;t agree more. Ruminate » Blog Archive » Web 2.0 Tools for Education If only one point sticks, I hope it was/is the last [...]</p>
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