Comments on: Web 2.0 and Logo http://chrislott.org/story/web-20-and-logo/ Musings on education, techology, and life.. Tue, 02 Mar 2010 16:23:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: chris http://chrislott.org/story/web-20-and-logo/comment-page-1/#comment-98764 chris Sat, 08 Sep 2007 00:03:45 +0000 http://www.chrislott.org/2007/09/06/web-20-and-logo/#comment-98764 I think such discussions are already happening-- at your blog among many others, for example. What I don't think is useful is the kind of inane, abstracted strawmen that pieces like Stager's create as foils in service of scoring their rhetorical points (and I will note that I find a lot of Stager's writing quite interesting). The reason this particular case is so egregious is because of its fundamental confusion-- and rather uncharitable assumptions-- about the conversations *educators* are having regarding Web 2.0 and social networking applications and environments in the classroom. Web app vendors and companies might not be thinking about education, but the educators using the apps are having real, vital discussions that are far more often about Illich, learning community, construction of self, identity and control and many other important and meaningful issues than they are blindly following the hype cycle. Anytime a discussion casts educators and technology and learners as monoliths it has gone off the rails. Anytime a discussions posits our current regression from a golden age when there were real ideas and revolutionary approaches, it has become useless. I think such discussions are already happening– at your blog among many others, for example. What I don’t think is useful is the kind of inane, abstracted strawmen that pieces like Stager’s create as foils in service of scoring their rhetorical points (and I will note that I find a lot of Stager’s writing quite interesting). The reason this particular case is so egregious is because of its fundamental confusion– and rather uncharitable assumptions– about the conversations *educators* are having regarding Web 2.0 and social networking applications and environments in the classroom. Web app vendors and companies might not be thinking about education, but the educators using the apps are having real, vital discussions that are far more often about Illich, learning community, construction of self, identity and control and many other important and meaningful issues than they are blindly following the hype cycle.

Anytime a discussion casts educators and technology and learners as monoliths it has gone off the rails. Anytime a discussions posits our current regression from a golden age when there were real ideas and revolutionary approaches, it has become useless.

]]> By: Miguel Guhlin http://chrislott.org/story/web-20-and-logo/comment-page-1/#comment-98715 Miguel Guhlin Fri, 07 Sep 2007 21:12:32 +0000 http://www.chrislott.org/2007/09/06/web-20-and-logo/#comment-98715 Howdy! How would you go about discussing higher ed challenges cogently and in the right ways? Concerned about higher ed changes, Miguel Guhlin Around the Corner-mGuhlin.net http://mguhlin.net Howdy!

How would you go about discussing higher ed challenges cogently and in the right ways?

Concerned about higher ed changes,

Miguel Guhlin
Around the Corner-mGuhlin.net
http://mguhlin.net

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