Comments on: PLE/VLE/Learning Cloud/That Which Shall Not be Named Update http://chrislott.org/story/ple-vle-update/ Musings on education, techology, and life.. Sun, 04 Jul 2010 16:19:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Jen http://chrislott.org/story/ple-vle-update/comment-page-1/#comment-136187 Jen Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:53:54 +0000 http://www.chrislott.org/2008/03/10/ple-vle-update/#comment-136187 I don't object to the term, I just don't understand it well enough yet to help you out. My understanding is that you are seeking a way to replicate "what we do" that makes us "who we are" professionally. I do want to help, but I think this conversation is way above my head. However, I will be hiring a new team member in the next few months and will likely show them "what I do." I would love to test any ideas you or your network can pull together to bring a new person up to speed, with the understanding that my network, connections and tools are unique. I can provide the new person with an overview of the concept and I can model my networking, but he or she will need to forge an independent path. Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help bring this to life for you. I don’t object to the term, I just don’t understand it well enough yet to help you out. My understanding is that you are seeking a way to replicate “what we do” that makes us “who we are” professionally. I do want to help, but I think this conversation is way above my head. However, I will be hiring a new team member in the next few months and will likely show them “what I do.” I would love to test any ideas you or your network can pull together to bring a new person up to speed, with the understanding that my network, connections and tools are unique. I can provide the new person with an overview of the concept and I can model my networking, but he or she will need to forge an independent path. Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help bring this to life for you.

]]> By: chris http://chrislott.org/story/ple-vle-update/comment-page-1/#comment-136169 chris Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:22:47 +0000 http://www.chrislott.org/2008/03/10/ple-vle-update/#comment-136169 I guess where others see the term as monolithic, etc. I see the alternatives as being too limiting. It isn't a toolkit because that doesn't capture the equal importance of connections and people. It isn't just stuff one uses to connect because that is only one of at least three major activities that happen-- it really *is* an environment, because its existence is only partially dependent on ourselves as individuals, non-human things are a part of it, and we can do valuable things there without making any connections at all. I wonder how terms like environmental and network suddenly became monolithic in connotation? It hasn't reached this far north yet, I guess! The choice so far seems to be either a paragraph of explanation, a term that people react unhappily toward, or a reductive reference that hits on one part of the activity... I don't like any of the possibilities, honestly. But then my background is lit theory, philosophy, and writing-- holding long conversations about things no one actually understands using terms that everyone disagrees about is pretty much the norm :) I guess where others see the term as monolithic, etc. I see the alternatives as being too limiting. It isn’t a toolkit because that doesn’t capture the equal importance of connections and people. It isn’t just stuff one uses to connect because that is only one of at least three major activities that happen– it really *is* an environment, because its existence is only partially dependent on ourselves as individuals, non-human things are a part of it, and we can do valuable things there without making any connections at all.

I wonder how terms like environmental and network suddenly became monolithic in connotation? It hasn’t reached this far north yet, I guess!

The choice so far seems to be either a paragraph of explanation, a term that people react unhappily toward, or a reductive reference that hits on one part of the activity…

I don’t like any of the possibilities, honestly. But then my background is lit theory, philosophy, and writing– holding long conversations about things no one actually understands using terms that everyone disagrees about is pretty much the norm :)

]]> By: D'Arcy Norman http://chrislott.org/story/ple-vle-update/comment-page-1/#comment-136154 D'Arcy Norman Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:06:05 +0000 http://www.chrislott.org/2008/03/10/ple-vle-update/#comment-136154 I just call it "the stuff that I use to connect me to the people I care about." Doesn't need an acronym for my usage :-) I just call it “the stuff that I use to connect me to the people I care about.” Doesn’t need an acronym for my usage :-)

]]> By: Michele Martin http://chrislott.org/story/ple-vle-update/comment-page-1/#comment-136116 Michele Martin Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:25:40 +0000 http://www.chrislott.org/2008/03/10/ple-vle-update/#comment-136116 Maybe we need to just call them personal learning tools (PLT) or a Personal Learning Toolkit and leave it at that. PLE and "Personal Learning Network" (PLN) imply a sort of monolithic something that seems to make people uncomfortable, as though there's a "right" and "wrong" kind of environment or network to build. But if we just talk about personal learning tools and not try to call it a system, then it's something that fits in anywhere. You can pick and choose as it suits you, depending on the kinds of tasks that you tend to perform. I need tools to help me gather information, to make sense of it, to connect to other people, etc. Then we can talk about which tools I use and how I use them without getting bogged down in all this stuff about "what's a PLE." Maybe we need to just call them personal learning tools (PLT) or a Personal Learning Toolkit and leave it at that. PLE and “Personal Learning Network” (PLN) imply a sort of monolithic something that seems to make people uncomfortable, as though there’s a “right” and “wrong” kind of environment or network to build. But if we just talk about personal learning tools and not try to call it a system, then it’s something that fits in anywhere. You can pick and choose as it suits you, depending on the kinds of tasks that you tend to perform. I need tools to help me gather information, to make sense of it, to connect to other people, etc. Then we can talk about which tools I use and how I use them without getting bogged down in all this stuff about “what’s a PLE.”

]]> By: D'Arcy Norman http://chrislott.org/story/ple-vle-update/comment-page-1/#comment-136049 D'Arcy Norman Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:09:19 +0000 http://www.chrislott.org/2008/03/10/ple-vle-update/#comment-136049 you never lost your friend, buddy. I'll amend my comments to be a little less filter-worthy. you never lost your friend, buddy. I’ll amend my comments to be a little less filter-worthy.

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