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		<title>By: jeremyywang.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Getting Taken to eLearning &#8220;School&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeremyywang.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Getting Taken to eLearning &#8220;School&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] community around these resources is lively. Apparently, you get points for getting fired up about opening up courseware (Chris Lott). I also found some interesting posts on open education and its three parts: content, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] community around these resources is lively. Apparently, you get points for getting fired up about opening up courseware (Chris Lott). I also found some interesting posts on open education and its three parts: content, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://chrislott.org/story/open-content-is-so-like-yesterday/comment-page-1/#comment-357363</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People from developing countries often emigrate to industrialised countries, after being recruited by the embassies and consultants of those industrialised countries. Many of these people forget or are not told that their qualifications will “qualify” them for jobs like cleaning toilets at airports and hard working doctors and teachers with 15 years experience might re-train to become security guards and taxi drivers. This is normal, and it is what people face who have formal qualifications. 

How much worse will these same countries treat new immigrants arriving who say they have learned all they know from social networking sites? From sites that carry course materials created by people unknown and who have no institutional accreditation in their home country, and no form of certification of the education they have gained? Open educational practitioners need to remember that just pumping out half-baked content is not enough. Content needs a structure around it, and that includes providing the credibility to people who take the trouble to study the content. 

If you are a creator of open content, would you employ a person for a highly skilled job who carries no institutional credentials, but lists courses they have self-studied on social-eductional-networking sites? Be honest! These sites are great for teachers scavenging for content if they have the time and connectivity, but they are not going to fly when it comes to credentialing people who need it. It makes people look like they have bought their qualifications on one of those internet sites we hear about in our spam folders all the time. Open content by big institutions is a great idea. 

Keep up the good work UKOU, MIT and others. Your materials can be used by teachers for courses that people can study, be examined on and get qualifications. And maybe one day these qualifications will jump borders the way they should be able to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People from developing countries often emigrate to industrialised countries, after being recruited by the embassies and consultants of those industrialised countries. Many of these people forget or are not told that their qualifications will “qualify” them for jobs like cleaning toilets at airports and hard working doctors and teachers with 15 years experience might re-train to become security guards and taxi drivers. This is normal, and it is what people face who have formal qualifications. </p>
<p>How much worse will these same countries treat new immigrants arriving who say they have learned all they know from social networking sites? From sites that carry course materials created by people unknown and who have no institutional accreditation in their home country, and no form of certification of the education they have gained? Open educational practitioners need to remember that just pumping out half-baked content is not enough. Content needs a structure around it, and that includes providing the credibility to people who take the trouble to study the content. </p>
<p>If you are a creator of open content, would you employ a person for a highly skilled job who carries no institutional credentials, but lists courses they have self-studied on social-eductional-networking sites? Be honest! These sites are great for teachers scavenging for content if they have the time and connectivity, but they are not going to fly when it comes to credentialing people who need it. It makes people look like they have bought their qualifications on one of those internet sites we hear about in our spam folders all the time. Open content by big institutions is a great idea. </p>
<p>Keep up the good work UKOU, MIT and others. Your materials can be used by teachers for courses that people can study, be examined on and get qualifications. And maybe one day these qualifications will jump borders the way they should be able to.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Leslie</title>
		<link>http://chrislott.org/story/open-content-is-so-like-yesterday/comment-page-1/#comment-354144</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 19:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy, not sure that Labspace is exactly what I had in mind, though the multiple output formats are a great start, as are the many ways in which you try to connect educators and learners. In any case, I do appreciate the example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy, not sure that Labspace is exactly what I had in mind, though the multiple output formats are a great start, as are the many ways in which you try to connect educators and learners. In any case, I do appreciate the example.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Lane</title>
		<link>http://chrislott.org/story/open-content-is-so-like-yesterday/comment-page-1/#comment-353971</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;what would be really helpful is to point to some OCW examples that do not ask instructors to publish in one centrally provisioned infrastructure (like educommons or the MIT platform) or that aggregate open content from different places under a central institutional banner. I’d really like to see working examples of what that looks like in an OCW project, and hopefully in the “wide variety of implementations” there are a few illustrative examples. That would be helpful.&quot;
Scott, try looking at the LabSpace on OpenLearn as a tiny step towards an institution based hosting and publishing environment for a wider community of others - individuals, groups and organisations to modify OU stuff or do their own thing as they please using the available facilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;what would be really helpful is to point to some OCW examples that do not ask instructors to publish in one centrally provisioned infrastructure (like educommons or the MIT platform) or that aggregate open content from different places under a central institutional banner. I’d really like to see working examples of what that looks like in an OCW project, and hopefully in the “wide variety of implementations” there are a few illustrative examples. That would be helpful.&#8221;<br />
Scott, try looking at the LabSpace on OpenLearn as a tiny step towards an institution based hosting and publishing environment for a wider community of others &#8211; individuals, groups and organisations to modify OU stuff or do their own thing as they please using the available facilities.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Lane</title>
		<link>http://chrislott.org/story/open-content-is-so-like-yesterday/comment-page-1/#comment-353968</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what would be really helpful is to point to some OCW examples that do not ask instructors to publish in one centrally provisioned infrastructure (like educommons or the MIT platform) or that aggregate open content from different places under a central institutional banner. I’d really like to see working examples of what that looks like in an OCW project, and hopefully in the “wide variety of implementations” there are a few illustrative examples. That would be helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what would be really helpful is to point to some OCW examples that do not ask instructors to publish in one centrally provisioned infrastructure (like educommons or the MIT platform) or that aggregate open content from different places under a central institutional banner. I’d really like to see working examples of what that looks like in an OCW project, and hopefully in the “wide variety of implementations” there are a few illustrative examples. That would be helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: I Guess Being Misinterpreted is an Honor : Ruminate</title>
		<link>http://chrislott.org/story/open-content-is-so-like-yesterday/comment-page-1/#comment-353722</link>
		<dc:creator>I Guess Being Misinterpreted is an Honor : Ruminate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 07:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] constantly links to&#8211; ever merited even an oblique mention. It&#8217;s ironic that my post in reaction to some irritating timing of discussion was anointed, as it&#8217;s one of the most narrow in scope and response of any I&#8217;ve written [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] constantly links to&#8211; ever merited even an oblique mention. It&#8217;s ironic that my post in reaction to some irritating timing of discussion was anointed, as it&#8217;s one of the most narrow in scope and response of any I&#8217;ve written [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Open Content Anecdotes &#171; OUseful.Info, the blog&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://chrislott.org/story/open-content-is-so-like-yesterday/comment-page-1/#comment-353005</link>
		<dc:creator>Open Content Anecdotes &#171; OUseful.Info, the blog&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Content&#160;Anecdotes   Published November 25, 2008   Uncategorized       Reading Open Content is So, Like, Yesterday just now, the following bits jumped out at me: Sometimes– maybe even most of the time– what I [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Content&nbsp;Anecdotes   Published November 25, 2008   Uncategorized       Reading Open Content is So, Like, Yesterday just now, the following bits jumped out at me: Sometimes– maybe even most of the time– what I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jared Stein</title>
		<link>http://chrislott.org/story/open-content-is-so-like-yesterday/comment-page-1/#comment-346719</link>
		<dc:creator>Jared Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Scott your last request about OCW/OER outside of a &quot;centrally provisioned infrastructure&quot; is a good one. I don&#039;t think there are any yet, but that approach conceptually makes a lot of sense to me, despite the (arguable) challenge of &quot;interoperability&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Scott your last request about OCW/OER outside of a &#8220;centrally provisioned infrastructure&#8221; is a good one. I don&#8217;t think there are any yet, but that approach conceptually makes a lot of sense to me, despite the (arguable) challenge of &#8220;interoperability&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: &#160; 7 things you can do with your video on YouTube that I can&#8217;t do on my media server&#160;by&#160;ClintLalonde.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#160; 7 things you can do with your video on YouTube that I can&#8217;t do on my media server&#160;by&#160;ClintLalonde.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] web service like YouTube. But there are more informed educators than me to discuss issues such as opening up your content, transparency, copyright and (gulp) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Scott Leslie</title>
		<link>http://chrislott.org/story/open-content-is-so-like-yesterday/comment-page-1/#comment-342519</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I swore on twitter I was not going to comment on anything like this for 48 hours. That was 15 minutes ago. I&#039;m hopeless.

Mike, what would be really helpful is to point to some OCW examples that do not ask instructors to publish in one centrally provisioned infrastructure (like educommons or the MIT platform) or that aggregate open content from different places under a central institutional banner. I&#039;d really like to see working examples of what that looks like in an OCW project, and hopefully in the &quot;wide variety of implementations&quot; there are a few illustrative examples. That would be helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I swore on twitter I was not going to comment on anything like this for 48 hours. That was 15 minutes ago. I&#8217;m hopeless.</p>
<p>Mike, what would be really helpful is to point to some OCW examples that do not ask instructors to publish in one centrally provisioned infrastructure (like educommons or the MIT platform) or that aggregate open content from different places under a central institutional banner. I&#8217;d really like to see working examples of what that looks like in an OCW project, and hopefully in the &#8220;wide variety of implementations&#8221; there are a few illustrative examples. That would be helpful.</p>
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