Comments on: Etech06 Notes: Introduction to AJAX http://chrislott.org/story/etech06-notes-introduction-to-ajax/ Musings on education, techology, and life.. Sun, 04 Jul 2010 16:19:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: chris http://chrislott.org/story/etech06-notes-introduction-to-ajax/comment-page-1/#comment-667 chris Tue, 07 Mar 2006 19:05:25 +0000 http://www.chrislott.org/2006/03/07/etech06-notes-introduction-to-ajax/#comment-667 Well, that's why I was being tongue-in-cheek about it-- though I think the high was over 95% at one time... the lack of development at Microsoft (for a while) was a real boon for AJAX development. re: the rest-- well, I think that is essentially the idea of the Web OS and browser as participation platform. But there are a lot of monetary battles to be fought. I think the real deal is all about making the data relevant and the apps not-so. That way it matters less and less how we want to do things because they can all be remixed. One thing that I'm definitely a lot more enthusiastic now is the ability for micro-formats to help move us along that road. Well, that’s why I was being tongue-in-cheek about it– though I think the high was over 95% at one time… the lack of development at Microsoft (for a while) was a real boon for AJAX development.

re: the rest– well, I think that is essentially the idea of the Web OS and browser as participation platform. But there are a lot of monetary battles to be fought. I think the real deal is all about making the data relevant and the apps not-so. That way it matters less and less how we want to do things because they can all be remixed.

One thing that I’m definitely a lot more enthusiastic now is the ability for micro-formats to help move us along that road.

]]> By: beau http://chrislott.org/story/etech06-notes-introduction-to-ajax/comment-page-1/#comment-663 beau Tue, 07 Mar 2006 16:33:45 +0000 http://www.chrislott.org/2006/03/07/etech06-notes-introduction-to-ajax/#comment-663 <blockquote>this is a lot like hearing that everyone except your friends stomps on puppies and makes baby Jesus cry</blockquote> <strong>But it's true!</strong> <em>They do!!</em> They're all stomping puppies and making that carpenter's kid wail. Has that %85 IE been slowly falling? Ultra picky question: If AJAX is standards based, shouldn't it be "ECMA" rather than "Javascript"? Is that the slightest bit relevant these days? Suddenly I'm flashing ahead a bit. Despite being a vim-weenie (as opposed to an emacs stud like yourself) I'm imagining a not-to-distant personal computing environment in which embedding the programming language compiler of your choice is a practical option. So instead of mosaic + javascript we'll have something like FIREFOX+++ with (perl/C#/take-your-pick). What would become possible if our main user apps themselves were not simply slightly scriptable by an external instance of a language but had the full capabilities built right into them. The taunt in the vim/emacs wars was, "Why run an OS when all I want is a text editor?" But as cpu cycles and bandwidth and storage continue to be increasinly availabe, why the hell *not* bundle an OS into the "browser/mua/gui"? (One answer: keeping the apps dumbed down sufficient not to lose that %85 percent of the user base. But as we see more data-age natives [contrasted with telephone age immigrants such as myself] even that %85 will be at home with the notion of firing up a shell and scripting a one liner to automate ordering their pizza and porn, don'tcha think?) Just fantasizing, but I figure this is the place and the time is now. Keep up the good work for us wannabes who can't be there.

this is a lot like hearing that everyone except your friends stomps on puppies and makes baby Jesus cry

But it’s true! They do!! They’re all stomping puppies and making that carpenter’s kid wail.

Has that %85 IE been slowly falling?

Ultra picky question: If AJAX is standards based, shouldn’t it be “ECMA” rather than “Javascript”? Is that the slightest bit relevant these days?

Suddenly I’m flashing ahead a bit. Despite being a vim-weenie (as opposed to an emacs stud like yourself) I’m imagining a not-to-distant personal computing environment in which embedding the programming language compiler of your choice is a practical option. So instead of mosaic + javascript we’ll have something like FIREFOX+++ with (perl/C#/take-your-pick). What would become possible if our main user apps themselves were not simply slightly scriptable by an external instance of a language but had the full capabilities built right into them. The taunt in the vim/emacs wars was, “Why run an OS when all I want is a text editor?” But as cpu cycles and bandwidth and storage continue to be increasinly availabe, why the hell *not* bundle an OS into the “browser/mua/gui”? (One answer: keeping the apps dumbed down sufficient not to lose that %85 percent of the user base. But as we see more data-age natives [contrasted with telephone age immigrants such as myself] even that %85 will be at home with the notion of firing up a shell and scripting a one liner to automate ordering their pizza and porn, don’tcha think?)

Just fantasizing, but I figure this is the place and the time is now. Keep up the good work for us wannabes who can’t be there.

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