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		<title>By: Carico</title>
		<link>http://chrislott.org/story/backchannels-and-transforming-presentations/comment-page-1/#comment-412522</link>
		<dc:creator>Carico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google does put out some amazing products but I think they missed the mark with Google Wave. Or maybe I just don&#039;t get it. It seems like a hyped up form of email. I used it for a day and that was about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google does put out some amazing products but I think they missed the mark with Google Wave. Or maybe I just don&#8217;t get it. It seems like a hyped up form of email. I used it for a day and that was about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tree Bressen</title>
		<link>http://chrislott.org/story/backchannels-and-transforming-presentations/comment-page-1/#comment-412296</link>
		<dc:creator>Tree Bressen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a bunch of nuts-and-bolts suggestions for alternative conference formats, see:  http://treegroup.info/topics/Transformational_Conferences.pdf.  Most of the ideas listed there are based on direct person-to-person interaction rather than fancy technology.  Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a bunch of nuts-and-bolts suggestions for alternative conference formats, see:  <a href="http://treegroup.info/topics/Transformational_Conferences.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://treegroup.info/topics/Transformational_Conferences.pdf</a>.  Most of the ideas listed there are based on direct person-to-person interaction rather than fancy technology.  Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Mathieu Plourde</title>
		<link>http://chrislott.org/story/backchannels-and-transforming-presentations/comment-page-1/#comment-412266</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathieu Plourde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The one thing that strikes me nowadays is the easy crowd is going away. The crowd I&#039;m referring to is the crowd of people who don&#039;t do any professional development outside of conferences. Anything you give them is new to them, and they are not connected, so they are easy. 

Everybody now comes to conferences with lots of very current knowledge, acquired through their own PLN. So what are they expecting from keynote presenters? It&#039;s not trivial anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one thing that strikes me nowadays is the easy crowd is going away. The crowd I&#8217;m referring to is the crowd of people who don&#8217;t do any professional development outside of conferences. Anything you give them is new to them, and they are not connected, so they are easy. </p>
<p>Everybody now comes to conferences with lots of very current knowledge, acquired through their own PLN. So what are they expecting from keynote presenters? It&#8217;s not trivial anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 02:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

You nail this, it is a difficult topic, and like you said can easily be polarized and simplified as good or bad.  But what you&#039;re doing here is framing is far more important, the delineation of what might be happening to the idea of representing more generally, how is the performative act of presenting changing radically---like the way we write, create video, photograph, etc., with this new media, and why would we expect it wouldn&#039;t?


What crazy here is that presentation of ideas and &quot;thought&quot; about the technology is kind of providing another space to push what it is you do in perserson given how much one can already get online.  And that is the real interesting part for me, what can you do in person---as an event with some real expectation, power, and a sense of importance of you being there---that actually warrants and demands something new? I&#039;m always struck by cogdog&#039;s presentations as just another space in which he is following a whole series of ideas, experiments, and tinkering that he has been doing all along, but he frames the presentation not only as an occasion for the audience, but a particular demo of his thought process that is often externalized on a technology or story.  And, probably like you, I think what is missing fro the worst of presentations, many of which I&#039;ve given, is a clear narrative arc, and sense of detailed framing of what you want your audience to think about when they are done. I think presenting is an art form that has been lost to some degree by a routinized idea of &quot;making the donuts&quot; in academia to get a CV note. But what you frame here is a way of thinking about it as yet another form in this media landscape that needs to be critically thought about, imagined and considered on a case by case basis. And, interestingly enough, it may be my favorite form, because there is nothing better than a great presentation, it&#039;s like a great concert, or play----the being there can truly matter if it&#039;s done well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>You nail this, it is a difficult topic, and like you said can easily be polarized and simplified as good or bad.  But what you&#8217;re doing here is framing is far more important, the delineation of what might be happening to the idea of representing more generally, how is the performative act of presenting changing radically&#8212;like the way we write, create video, photograph, etc., with this new media, and why would we expect it wouldn&#8217;t?</p>
<p>What crazy here is that presentation of ideas and &#8220;thought&#8221; about the technology is kind of providing another space to push what it is you do in perserson given how much one can already get online.  And that is the real interesting part for me, what can you do in person&#8212;as an event with some real expectation, power, and a sense of importance of you being there&#8212;that actually warrants and demands something new? I&#8217;m always struck by cogdog&#8217;s presentations as just another space in which he is following a whole series of ideas, experiments, and tinkering that he has been doing all along, but he frames the presentation not only as an occasion for the audience, but a particular demo of his thought process that is often externalized on a technology or story.  And, probably like you, I think what is missing fro the worst of presentations, many of which I&#8217;ve given, is a clear narrative arc, and sense of detailed framing of what you want your audience to think about when they are done. I think presenting is an art form that has been lost to some degree by a routinized idea of &#8220;making the donuts&#8221; in academia to get a CV note. But what you frame here is a way of thinking about it as yet another form in this media landscape that needs to be critically thought about, imagined and considered on a case by case basis. And, interestingly enough, it may be my favorite form, because there is nothing better than a great presentation, it&#8217;s like a great concert, or play&#8212;-the being there can truly matter if it&#8217;s done well.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jared Context is king. The part that&#039;s most difficult is not being able to easily assess   one the most important determinants (if I can at all): audience expectations, preferences and composition.

@John That&#039;s a good point... and is doubly effective because a Twitter backchannel will be more productive with an audience that is aware of its existence. I make it a practice to have my Twitter username and the conference or session hashtag on an early slide. If I can, I have someone Twitter-jockeying as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jared Context is king. The part that&#8217;s most difficult is not being able to easily assess   one the most important determinants (if I can at all): audience expectations, preferences and composition.</p>
<p>@John That&#8217;s a good point&#8230; and is doubly effective because a Twitter backchannel will be more productive with an audience that is aware of its existence. I make it a practice to have my Twitter username and the conference or session hashtag on an early slide. If I can, I have someone Twitter-jockeying as well.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hilton III</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Hilton III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting this -- I missed it and wouldn&#039;t have heard about it without your post. Michael Nielsen, in one of the comments on Danah&#039;s post made an interesting observation: &quot;I give a lot of talks at events where the crowd is not especially into twitter (I talk mainly at scientific conferences), and I&#039;ve noticed an interesting thing about the twitter backchannel: how rude or respectful it is depends on whether the audience knows I&#039;m on twitter. If I merely put my twitter user name on the first slide, the back channel tends to be more respectful.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting this &#8212; I missed it and wouldn&#8217;t have heard about it without your post. Michael Nielsen, in one of the comments on Danah&#8217;s post made an interesting observation: &#8220;I give a lot of talks at events where the crowd is not especially into twitter (I talk mainly at scientific conferences), and I&#8217;ve noticed an interesting thing about the twitter backchannel: how rude or respectful it is depends on whether the audience knows I&#8217;m on twitter. If I merely put my twitter user name on the first slide, the back channel tends to be more respectful.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jared Stein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 06:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your observations and insights here. Backchannel has provided some powerful opportunities to engage and to prod or stoke the presenter. But you&#039;re right: we are still learning about what works, doesn&#039;t work, and how our audience (and speakers) respond to its use.

You&#039;re also right on when you suggest that expectations may differ, and affect outcomes. We are seeing a broader range of presentations now, some where the audience is passive, some where the audience is active. I prefer different styles depending on the topic, the speaker, and (unfortunately) my wildly changing moods and preferences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your observations and insights here. Backchannel has provided some powerful opportunities to engage and to prod or stoke the presenter. But you&#8217;re right: we are still learning about what works, doesn&#8217;t work, and how our audience (and speakers) respond to its use.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re also right on when you suggest that expectations may differ, and affect outcomes. We are seeing a broader range of presentations now, some where the audience is passive, some where the audience is active. I prefer different styles depending on the topic, the speaker, and (unfortunately) my wildly changing moods and preferences.</p>
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