Thanks to a link in his recent comment, I have unearthed Tony’s Unquiet Grave blog. Some interesting stuff there, particularly the October 4 entry (you may have to scroll a bit), where he reveals that we have been thinking along similar lines lately.
It should be obvious that I prefer productive approaches, and I like the idea of a more intelligent mainstream, just as I like talking about poems more than talking about poetry, and I am much more sympathetic to Eileen’s idea of “eros poetics” and Michaela’s pleasure principle of poetics than it might seem reading my meandering comments. This shared approach just isn’t well reflected here because this site is the area where I poke at the sore spots and scratch the itches, whereas my Po-eros and poetic pleasuring happens in private (poor me).
Anyway, back to Tony: it is interesting to contemplate, in broader terms, the action and reaction of the avant garde, official verse culture, etc. If it is dangerous to always be writing for the “center” it seems equally dangerous to be writing for the edge. The avant becomes the old guard, and the artists within it do so as well. Unless they gain some traction with a tight focus on being cutting-edge– but that is a recipe for poor poetry, as I don’t believe the poetic mind is best served by such an approach– or they create an elaborate structure of justification that purports that this natural process of evolution doesn’t really happen in poetry, we just think it does (ala the implication of Ron Silliman and his theory of the School of Quietude).
Fence and Slope will be tomorrow’s Ploughshares (assuming they are around that long, longevity not being a virtue in the publishing world as of late). And well it should be. Any other way is death, and no amount of elaborate justification can stave off that monster.
These things are of very different import depending on whether I am thinking as a reader, writer, or feeble wag. With my reader hat on, I’m looking for what moves me, and this might be in the form of intellectual engagement, but it is usually more sensual and immediate than that. Believe it or not, I don’t sit and ponder the “deep meaning” of everything I read, but I think a part of even the most natural apprehension comes from that mysterious understanding and empathy, the connection we make with the writing that is meant for us. In this respect, I don’t see pondering what a poet is “doing” with quite the same implicit approbation I keep hearing. But it can be carried too far, so while I ask questions I also keep sharing poems and prose and whetever else I think others need to hear, whether they are post-avant, SOQ, Atlantean, mainstream, crapitude, or whatever.
As a blog commentator publishing the cheapest rag around right here on this site, the ideas of poetic schools, cultural revolutions, etc. are grist for the big blog mill which grinds equal parts of narcissism, attention-seeking behaviour, self-therapy, and intellect into an unpredictable melange.
With my writer hat on, I’ve decided I’m not going to thinkg about these things at all. The workings of the creative mechanism are too complicated and obscure to try to influence them directly. I have things to say, so I will say them… and keep on saying them in the way that makes the most sense to me. There is no other way.